The tumbling of TULIP: Calvinism and Reformed Theology

The tumbling of TULIP: Calvinism and Reformed Theology

“Today, a growing number of churches, ministries, and Christian colleges are promoting Calvinism. While Calvinist scholars claim that Calvinism is complex (and they have indeed created a complex system), the rudiments of it are very basic, and it can be readily understood.

To call something heresy is clearly a strong accusation and should never be done flippantly. For something to be heresy, it must deviate from the fundamental teachings of the Bible. And nothing can be more serious than a deviation from the Gospel itself. Calvinism does present “another gospel.”

John Calvin taught that God will be glorified by bringing billions of people into this world for no other purpose than having them burn in Hell for eternity. This alone depicts a view of God found nowhere in Scripture; in essence, this misrepresents God but also creates a platform upon which “another gospel” has been built that is both fatalistic and makes the sacrifice of Christ no longer freely available to “whosoever may come.” Salvation is no longer a matter of choice. Furthermore, the Calvinist can never actually know if he or she is one of “the elect” thereby placing the Calvinist “Gospel” on a foundation of doubt rather than true biblical belief in the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ at Calvary. If that is not heresy, then what is?” Full book here

Someone does not become a Calvinist by reading the Bible; they become a Calvinist by reading Calvinist materials and that becomes their worldview in which they then interpret the Bible

T.U.L.I.P. (Acronym)

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistible Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

T for Total Depravity:
The Calvinist asks the question, “In light of the scriptures that declare man’s true nature as being utterly lost and incapable, how is it possible for anyone to choose or desire God?” The answer is, “He cannot. Therefore God must predestine.” Calvinism also maintains that because of our fallen nature we are born again not by our own will but God’s will. Calvinism says God forces Himself on whomever He pleases and then doesn’t force Himself on others; and so they are predestined for hell already, including some babies that are aborted and even miscarriages.

The “god” of Calvinism IS a different God. If a person is a “good” Calvinist; that is to say what’s called a “Consistent Calvinist” they will maintain that ALL babies who die were never elect and were predestined to hell before eternity past.

Calvinism’s greatest deception is truly found under “T” in TULIP because their doctrine claims the actual power of God’s messages, any of His messages or communications, is not a reality.

They are saying that Paul lied in Romans 1:16, because they claim no one can hear and believe because they are so totally depraved, when scripture says in Romans 10:17 “So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

If you’re scratching your head saying what kind of “god” is this, I’ve asked the same thing; because it’s certainly not the One I read about in scripture.

Tackling the “T” in TULIP 🌷👇🏻

U for Unconditional Election:
Calvinism says, God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses ‘the elect’ according to the kind intention of His will without any consideration of merit within the individual. Nor does God look into the future to see who would pick Him. Also, according to Calvinism only some are elected into salvation, others are not.

So, basically (according to Calvinism & either Calvinism is right or God is a liar) God is showing partiality even though in scripture we are told He is no respecter of persons; it rains on the just and on the unjust. Acts 10:34 “Then Peter opened his mouth and said: “In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality.” And according to Calvinism; you may have been predestined to hell before you were ever born, so God created you, you were born in transgression and sin, you had no part in that, and God has not provided a way out.

According to Calvinism, if you’re not elect God just created you to then just send you to hell. 🧐 🤨

Even though Scripture says Christ died for all (2 Corinthians 5:15 all means all… ) In Matthew ‪7:13-14‬ is a picture of conditional election. There is a wide gate opening on to a broad and easy way which leads to destruction.There is a narrow gate opening on to a difficult way that leads to life!

It appears that one may “CHOOSE” which gate to enter. Jesus counsels us to enter by the narrow gate and to walk the difficult road because of where it leads. “CHOOSE this day whom ye will serve …” Joshua 24:15

“But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”
Matthew 19:14 … JESUS didn’t say forbid Joey, Susie and Bob, but allow Jane, Mike, and Greg. Why would Jesus beckon ALL who labor and are heavy laden to come unto Him (Matthew:‪11:28‬) if those who are not of the elect cannot?

Below are more passages that refute the teaching that only unconditionally elected people can repent and be saved.

Calvinism would have to include: Israel’s circumstances under the conditional law (a righteousness for them, see Deuteronomy 6:24-25) in the Old Testament, and the Synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark and Luke) in the New Testament; Israel being still under the law until the murder of Christ (God’s sacrificial lamb), and the new covenant is then established thereafter, through His blood.

But many Calvinists teach replacement theology; and some don’t even realize it; which is another heresy to believe the church has replaced Israel.

These passages, though, primarily concern mankind as a whole. Calvinism does seem to forget to look at the whole of mankind as Paul explains in his letters, which give opportunity to EVERY individual therein. Romans 1-3 and Revelation covers every period of time – Genesis to Revelation (Adam having dominion over the garden to the last Adam having dominion over the whole sinless earth).

1) Ezekiel 33:11 – reasoning with unregenerate people, Israel, that they need to repent “why will you die, people of Israel?”

2) Acts 17:22-31, note verse 30 This statement is concerning mankind and includes EVERY individual member therein.

3) 1 Timothy 2:3-6 – This statement concerns the same mankind and EVERY individual therein as above.

4) 2 Peter 3:9 – This statement also concerns ALL of mankind. (The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that ANY should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.)

5) Titus 2:11 – This statement is the grace of God offered to mankind as a whole after Jesus’ death, including EVERY individual.

Once again this is a sadistic “god” that Calvinism has created; and sadly so many people are entangled with this strange god.

Undoing the “U” in TULIP 🌷👇🏻

“L” for Limited Atonement : Calvinism asserts God purposely chose only ‘certain’ persons for glory or eternal life (salvation/heaven) and chose others purposely for sin and destruction damned to hell; remember, they teach that under God’s sovereignty God causes every sin if they are to be considered consistent calvinists.

They also assert that Jesus only actually died for those who were unconditionally chosen or elected. Their argument includes the idea that if Jesus died for all mankind then some of His blood was, in fact, wasted. They do not seem to understand that Jesus shed His blood for Adam (mankind); his kin and Jesus’ blood paid a price for mankind as a WHOLE. Read Romans 3:21-5:18 and 1 Corinthians 15:45-49

But what does God say:

1 Timothy 4:10, “That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the savior of ALL people, and especially of those who believe.”

John 12:32 “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL men unto me.” (All means all and Calvinists hate this scripture they can not reconcile it to their twisted theology.)

Calvinists will use John 6:44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. “ which they use out of context. Remember God has not forgotten Israel; but Calvinism has.

The context is Jesus is speaking to a JEWISH audience not Gentiles (read the whole thing) and in John 6 they (Jews) should have believed Moses and recognized Christ and believed him. Just preceding John 6:44 that Calvinism uses out of context-He (Jesus) was telling His Jewish audience WHO HE WAS “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: and he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst” (Jhn 6:35).

Once again the Bible emphatically declares “And He (Jesus) is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours ONLY, but also for the sins of the WHOLE world.” 1 John 2:2

👆🏻And this is not teaching universalism or any form of pantheism; every person must decide (consciously and prior to their physical deaths) to appropriate for themselves Christs sacrifice or not.

Calvinism has created a strange god that cannot save you.

Losing the “L” in TULIP 🌷👇🏻

“I” for Irresistible Grace:
(also sometimes known as effectual call)

Calvinism declares that every person intentionally chosen for salvation (while others are intentionally chosen for hell) is brought to Sovereign, Almighty God by His grace that is irresistible. No one chosen will be able to resist God’s grace. There is no Scripture for this idea or teaching.

The document that defines Calvinisms teaching of “Irresistible grace” is found not in the Bible but in The Westminster Confession which states (X,I) “God renews people’s wills, and then goes on to state “yet so as they come most freely, being made willing by His grace.”

Huh? How can I come ‘most freely’ and be ‘made willing’ … which is it?

❓Freely <—> made willing❓

Calvinist author David Steel states in his book The Five Points of Calvinism (pp 48-49)
“This special call (speaking of irresistible grace) is not made to all sinners but is issued to the elect only.”

But The Bible says:
1 John 2:2
“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE world.”

Romans 10:13
“For WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

I will stop ✋🏻 here to say when you are engaged in conversation with a Calvinist; at some point you will be told (quite condescendingly)
“oh you don’t understand, you need to read scripture, you don’t understand scripture, you need to read more about Calvin, you need to read Luthers books, you need to read Augustines writings, you don’t understand the doctrines of grace… you don’t understand the sovereignty of God, etc etc” …this “special understanding” that only the ‘elect’ have, runs perilously close to Rome’s teaching that only “certain” people can understand and read scripture. This is a mixture of pride and gnosticizing tendencies.

What does God say?
Scriptures that demonstrate groups and individual members of mankind do, in fact, resist God such as:

Hosea 4:6
Acts 7:51
Acts 13:46
Romans 10:21
Isaiah 65:2
And just follow the Israelites journey out of Egypt and for 40 years; they chose over and over again to resist God; yet God clearly in that shows us His perfect attributes of love, mercy, long suffering, and above all His Holiness.

The ineffectual “I” in TULIP 🌷 👇🏻

“P” for Perseverance of the Saints:

Calvinism postulates that a person cannot lose salvation. If Calvinism stopped there, this would be true however there is more. Like every false teaching, Calvinism preaches a conditional salvation based on works and ‘evidence’ of obedience.

Calvinist John Piper stated “These works of faith, and this obedience of faith, these fruits of the Spirit that come by faith, are necessary for our final salvation. No holiness, no heaven. So, we should not speak of getting to heaven by faith alone in the same way we are justified by faith alone. Essential to the Christian life and necessary for final salvation is the killing of sin (Romans 8:13) and the pursuit of holiness (Hebrews 12:14).[5]” Desiring God

Piper also stated “…no Christian can be sure he is a true believer; hence there is an ongoing need to be dedicated to the Lord and deny ourselves so that we might make it…” Ligoneer National Conference 2000

Another prominent Calvinist RC Sproul in his book, Essential Truths of Christian Faith, RC Sproul argues that believers grow in faith by keeping God’s law.

“We are justified by faith alone apart from works. However, all believers grow in faith by keeping God’s holy commands – not to gain God’s favor, but out of loving gratitude for the grace already bestowed on them through the work of Christ.” – pg. 254

In the very same book, he argues that some people are saved but do not know they are saved, because they have not assured themselves of their election by ridding themselves of sins that trouble their conscience.

“There are people who are saved but do not know they are saved. These people are actually in a state of grace but are uncertain of it. Perhaps they are wrestling with sin in their lives and doubt their own salvation because of a troubled conscience. In this group are those who have not yet made certain that they are among the elect.” – pg. 201

They will also use Matthew 24:13 out of context saying once must ‘endure’ as a salvific statement; when the context of that verse is persecution and martyrdomism in the end times.

What is being said here is the same as all works salvation gospels, this is the typical modern day Judaizers we read about in the book of Galatians that Paul addressed. And then in usual works salvation fashion people will spout out “But faith without works is dead!!!!” Paul condemns works added to faith, while James commends works produced by faith. We must be discerning here because our salvation does not rest on what we do; rather it rests entirely in what Christ has done FOR us. James asks the question in verse 14, “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?” This is the issue James is confronting. If someone says he has faith but does not have works, then he is a liar and the truth is not in him. He is a false convert, a hypocrite who is self-deceived.

This works salvation is in fact unbiblical and destroys Calvinism’s other four points of doctrine (TULIP) plus their definition of sovereignty. Calvinists claim no one can believe the gospel unless God’s grace was given to them, as one was unconditionally elected and atoned for. As already mentioned, there are mysteries that only God knows but one thing consistent throughout God’s Word is, He does not contradict His own truths.

Calvinism cannot, under TULIP, account for Perseverance of the Saints because no one under their definition of sovereignty of God and the first four letters could still be described as “may not be saved” or not of the “elect”. They seem to feign ignorance about the fact that our bodies have not changed and we can, and do in fact, still sin even though we do not practice it as a way of life.

1 John 1:8 “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”

1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

1 John 2:1 “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.”

Calvinists deceive undiscerning Christians by using Jesus’ words to the Jews (this is another heresy of replacement theology) in John to show that no one can come to God unless God draws them and only those are given to Christ. They fail to mention that Jesus says in John 12:32 that when He is lifted up (crucified) He will draw all men to Himself. Draw does not mean they will be willing to believe. They believe and teach everyone God draws is to belong to Christ, but only retort sarcastically to John 12:32 saying “you think all people are going to be saved” which is not taught anywhere in Scripture.

Many people in every generation since Adam, are unwilling to believe God, but that does not change the biblical truth that God desires ALL men to believe and not perish.

1 Timothy 2:4 “This is good and pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires ALL men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

2 Peter 3:9 “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is long suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.”

Repentance? What does that word even mean?
It means:
Strong’s Concordance
metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
�Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
�Transliteration: metanoia
�Phonetic Spelling: (met-an’-oy-ah)
�Definition: change of mind, repentance
�Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.

But according to calvinism I am too totally depraved (See the T in TULIP) to even have a mind at all, or the ability to change my non existent mind. Why would Jesus Christ tell us to repent (and believe the Gospel) if we are too depraved to be able too? See how utterly twisted this theology is?

What “god” IS this?

Lastly The Word of God says: “Now to HIM who is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy,” Jude 1:24

“In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13

“Being confident of this very thing, that HE who has begun a good work in you WILL complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;” Philippians 1:6

“While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and NONE of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.”
John 17:12

Parting with the “P” in TULIP 🌷👇🏻

“For God so loved 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝, that he gave his only begotten Son, that 𝐰𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐨𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

The false gospel of Calvinism (TULIP) is sadly resurfacing and appealing more and more to the younger generation.

God has not “damned” or “chosen” (predestined) certain people to go to hell as Calvinism teaches; among many other false teachings.

Some popular Calvinists / Reformed Theologians today

John Piper
Paul Washer
Todd Friel (Wretched Radio)
Jeff Durbin (Apologia Studios/Church)
RC Sproul
Matt Chandler
C.J. Mahaney
Dr. James White
Justin Peters
J I Packer
John McArthur
Allister Begg
Kevin DeYoung
Tim Keller
Erwin Lutzer
Al Mohler
John Neufeld ( Back to the Bible Canada )
Ray Ortlund
Mike Gendron
Richard Bennett

“No one was ever predestinated to be damned. Predestination is a precious truth of inestimable value and comfort when rightly understood. Will you not turn to your Bible and read for yourself in the only two chapters in which this word “predestinate” or “predestinated” is found? The first is Romans 8:29-30….” Read full article here

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a spiritual Ebola virus.

In Deuteronomy 18:10-11 we read: There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. We can read similar warnings […]

Hath God said….? Exploring the Word of Faith Movement.

Hath God said….? Exploring the Word of Faith Movement.

Things satan has said and continues to say:

“Has God indeed said…” Genesis 3:1

“You will be like God…” Genesis 3:5

“I will make myself like the Most High.” Isaiah 14:14

The above are just a few scriptures of what satan has said from the beginning. After all, if you can be a god, and even be as God, then there is no need for God. These scriptures and those (word of faith, WOF, word faith, positive confession, seed faith, prosperity teachers ) who teach such a thing, are their own gods. And as scripture says, frighteningly so, truly they have their reward already.

Anyone with access to the world wide web can simply google some of the terms above and a variety of mostly outlandish and almost unbelievable things will flood your search engine. However it can be easy to look from the outside at the most blasphemous claims (and behaviors) made by people in this movement and think what in the world are these people thinking? Then, there are the folks on the outskirts who essentially are passing by and unknowingly get “swept up” into some of the less outlandish and more subtle versions of what this blog will highlight.

I have learned that words matter and defining terms is essential. I will provide a real life example of how important this defining of terms is. I recently met an elderly woman, who was well dressed, wearing a plain cross around her neck, and had a old tattered book titled the sermon on the mount in her lap. In my mind, I immediately thought, well praise the Lord, I can chat with this woman about Jesus and surely she will understand what I am talking about! Then very quickly a sense that something was very very wrong came over me. She seemed a certain way, she looked good but something wasn’t right and I was about to find out exactly what that was.

As we engaged in a conversation I began asking her about the book she had. I “knew” not by my own understanding that there was something wrong with that book. She clenched it ever so tightly as if her very life was in that book and said “this is the only thing I have read for 30 years!” She proceeded to exclaim to me “you must have a copy, it will change your life!” In my head I thought, I am sure it will change my life, but not for the better, this book is not from God. The sermon on the mount spoken by Jesus Christ has changed and continues to change my life. However this woman’s book the sermon on the mount was everything that is antichrist but posing itself as Christian using all the same terms yet meaning something entirely different. The book she had that was written in 1934 by New Thought spiritual leader Emmet Fox.

I am mentioning all this to bring this back to the word of faith teachings that are solely based upon new thought, “christian science”, new thought metaphysical movement, gnosticism, with some “peppered” scripture in there as a condiment to “appear” Christian just like this elderly woman I met.

Here are some resources on the occult origins that are the very spring board of the Word of Faith movement:

Phineas Quimby “Father of New Thought” influenced Mary Eddy Baker, who both in turn influenced the “christian” originator of the Word Faith Movement EW Kenyon.

At this point I would hope the reader is already starting to see this has nothing to do with God at all and we haven’t even begun to get into mainstream “christian” word faith teachings that have come from this.

EW Kenyons writings went on to heavily influence Kenneth Hagin Sr. who is the recognized “father” of the Word of Faith Movement also referred to as Neo-Charismatic, prosperity gospel, force of faith, faith healers, positive confession movement. This movement is also heavily intertwined with the New Apostolic Reformation movement previously touched upon here.

A few very short examples of the heretical teachings from the word of faith movement are:

The false teaching that “we are little gods” is central to WOF teaching as well as the NAR movement. It has to be so they can maintain the position of (“I will be like the most high”) the scriptures mentioned in the opening of this blog. The correct biblical exposition of the “little gods teaching” is here.

God “speaks words of faith” with his mouth is basic to Word-Faith doctrine is the idea that God created the world by literally speaking aloud words of faith. Thus, Hagin taught that “God created the world with words, human beings were created to be gods.”

Although Word-Faith teachers affirm that Jesus Christ was and is God, this affirmation is compromised by other elements of their teaching. According to basic word of faith teaching- Jesus was born again in hell and then rose from the dead. The correct biblical view is that Jesus was not “born again” He has always existed. They also argue that healing from disease or illness is assured in the atonement in this current temporal life, missing the true understanding of what Christs atonement entails, not just in this temporal body, but life everlasting. The focus is here and now and self centered, rather than glorifying God. Some teaching on biblical healing can be found here, here, and here.  

I mention biblical healing because there is an overemphasis and idolatry of healing and money (materialism and good health is equated to spirituality) within this movement. If people are not healed of diseases they are left with their faith bankrupt. If they are financially poor it’s because they didn’t give enough money or they “spoke out” (AKA negative confession) against their finances. As is the case within my own family I have witnessed this movement cause serious spiritual damage. There is plenty of public testimony where this movement has even caused death in circumstances because people trenched in this view often refuse medical treatment because “sickness is just an illusion.”

Word of Faith says we should speak words of faith like God does: Since words spoken in faith are inherently powerful (Prov. 18:21 ” Death and life are in the power of the tongue ….” which is used out of context) what we say, if we believe it, is basically what we get. This is a “spiritual law” and God MUST act as we declare and decree a thing so.

John 10:10 “the thief” (comes to kill, steal, and destroy) … is another half verse quoted by WOF and some NAR to once again confirm that since according to their teaching, since it is always Gods will to be healthy, wealthy, etc. then if you’re not –‘satan has stolen your inheritance, or you need to stand firm and take back what the enemy has stolen (AKA money, health)!’ They equate “the thief” in this verse to satan, when (words and the meaning matter) the word “the thief” is referring to false teachers in the context of this whole chapter. The irony of false teachers using this verse once escaped me.

The WOF movement has cashed in on this verse : 3 John 2 “I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.” … This is often used to “confirm” Gods will is always that you have good health, a lot of money, and always happy and prospering. Again words matter and in the context of 3 John 2…it’s a simple salutation. It would be the same if I sent an email to a long lost friend and said, “ It’s been awhile since we spoke, I hope you and your family are well, healthy, and doing ok.” The WOF movement has made an entire doctrine from this misused scripture.

Listed below are just some (not an exhaustive list) notable Word of Faith/Prosperity teachers/speakers today (some still living, some not) and for the most part they all share the same underlying/overlapping aberrant and even heretical belief systems which will also be explored. It is important to list these teachers as many of them are aging and rapidly “passing the torch” to the younger generation. For example- Kenneth Copeland is passing “his torch” or as word of faithers would say “passing the mantle and anointing” to Todd White. Listed below The Word of Faith and NAR (New Apostolic Reformation Movement) are very much overlapped in many ways and at the same time also have some unique characteristics unto themselves.

E.W. Kenyon

Kenneth Hagin

Kenneth Copeland

Gloria Copeland

Jessie Duplantis

Joel Osteen

Victoria Osteen

Joyce Meyer

Beth Moore

Caroline Leaf

Priscilla Shirer

Lisa Bevere

John Bevere

Charles Capps

Steven Furtick

T. D. Jakes (an unrepentant modalist)

Benny Hinn

Paul Cain

Carol Arnott

John Arnott

Robert Tilton

Jerry Falwell

Smith Wigglesworth

William Branham

Oral Roberts

Marylin Hickey

Creflo Dollar

Paula White

Joseph Prince

Johnathan Cahn

Phil Pringle

Rod Parsley

Paul Crouch

So we have covered only some of the elementary basics of the occult, new thought, christian science, and the influences it has had on major “Christian” leaders.

What is often seen in this and all false teaching is a mashing of pieces of scripture (and most often secondary non-canonical sources) and attaching to another not in the way of cross referencing/studying, rather just a “whole new” verse thus a whole new teaching can come from it.

Other central versus from Scripture within the WOF movement that will be explored in coming blogs:

For those who believe …………these signs shall follow….”

Greater works than these……………….” keep in mind Christ IS GOD. He always has been. So the “you are little gods” false teaching is very much tied into this. Christ IS GOD.

By His Stripes we were healed….”- is the mantra in WOF- and there is a reason why the Old Testament Prophet Isaiah is always quoted but the same reference in The New Testament (in Peter and Matthew) scriptures that refer to this passage in Isaiah are not the “go to” scriptures in this movement. Like I said very early in this blog– words and the meaning of words matter.

I was listening to The Berean Call radio and listened to a testimony of a man coming out of the false teaching of the NAR. When he was asked why do people continue to stay in something that they know to be false. He answered it’s largely due to the fact that people just cannot psychologically cope with the reality that they’ve been duped for 20 or 30 plus years.

I watched Pastor Steve Mitchell talk about seminary school and he met a man in seminary and they became acquainted. As I recall Mitchell speaking about this man, he says how he ministered to him for approximately 2 years before the man went off to be a catholic priest. The man agreed with Mitchell on the facts (and accepted 1st century apostolic biblical doctrine as true) that the teachings of Rome is diametrically opposed to biblical Christianity, but the man just could not let go of the belief that he had been given the power of transubstantiation. So it was more important for him to have that power than to have the truth of the Gospel. Power at the expense of Truth really is at the root of all false teachings.

So far people who may be following these teachers may not hold the belief systems mentioned, or like myself, not even aware they did hold to such unbiblical beliefs. A little leaven, leavens the whole lump, and trying to separate what is true from the lies in these teachings is like trying to strain the cream out once its been mixed in your coffee.

In the coming blogs about the Word of Faith movement deeper discussions and biblical content will be explored. Including more scriptures that are plucked out to base an entire doctrine on. I will also provide book excerpts and/or video/audio excerpts whenever possible for the reader to research on their own about the people mentioned.

I hope this has encouraged people to look at Scripture themselves and compare it to what you have heard. Feel free to contact here and also ponder this until next time.

Have a look at these sites if you are reading Jesus Calling, The Shack, The Alpha Course, A Course in Miracles, The Daniel Plan, or The Purpose Driven Life.

The Emerging Church….. and its sympathizers.

The Emerging Church….. and its sympathizers.

There is an elephant in the room.. it’s called the “Emergent/Emerging Church” (Postmodernism/Emergent-Liberalism)…. what is it?

It is deception by reidentification is what it is. “Hath God said” …. Genesis 3:1

The emergent church – we have some ‘leaders’ in that.

Just a few here:

  • Rick Warren
  • Dallas Willard
  • Dan Kimball
  • Andy Stanley

All of the above names,  an influential Christian youth apologist leader Sean McDowell has defended and /or given and receiving accolades to or from.

 Sean praises Dallas Willard

 Who is Dallas Willard?

Sean receives / gives accolades to Dan Kimball Calling him “insightful” —Praising Dan Kimball

Who is Dan Kimball and why is he accepting endorsements from Rick Warren from Rick Warren?  Who is Dan Kimball?


Rick Warren and the purpose driven “lie”

More Rick Warren

Yet, more Rick Warren


Why is Sean McDowell preaching at saddleback church  Rick Warrens church and then again in May 2019 preaching at Rick Warrens sister church? 


Sean McDowell ‘defends’ Andy Stanley regarding Andy Stanleys comments to unhitch  from the Old Testament” – Sean states “Andy Stanley has a remarkable history of preaching the gospel, being faithful to scriptures.”

🚨 ⁉️ Pause here for a moment, Andy Stanley has called himself an “apologist” or offers “apologetics” so tell me … how does one contend /defend the Word of God if one doesn’t hold to its inerrancy & authority to begin with 🚨 ⁉️

Andy Stanley “is remarkable at being faithful to scripture.”

One cannot be faithful and deny the Word of God at the same time.

 Andy Stanley promotes Enneagram after Sean praised his preaching if he is so “remarkable” at preaching the gospel?

 What is the enneagram anyway?

So the question needs to be asked, of a rising leader (SeanMcDowell) who has a great influence over the youth– does he know what he’s aligned with?  I have reached out to him, his colleagues, and Biola University, and no reply. He doesn’t appear to refute emergent teaching in his own blog post.

Biblical discernment is practically obsolete in the body of Christ and certainly wherever there is false teaching, anyone with discernment won’t be welcomed for long.


🚨 Be alert 1 Peter 5:8 “Be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary the devil walketh about as a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.”

🚨 Matthew 7:13-14 Enter through the narrow gate for wide is the gate and broad the way leading to destruction, and many are those entering through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.

🚨 The great apostasy being fulfilled 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

If they do not repent they are sure to hear on that Day:

Jesus will say “And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.”


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